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Old 07-03-2007, 01:08 AM
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My partner and I have had a horrible past three years. Prior to that we had 8 great years. I started the ruination by having an on-again, off-again affair for 8 months. She retaliated with an on-again, off-again affair of her own (with our best friend) for 17 months. She doesn't trust me. I don't trust her. I love and want her. She "loves" me. We both want back what we had. We have moved in and out from our house several times and are currently living in it together. She maintains a "friendship" with the third person. I can't take it anymore. She says she can't give what she use to and would rather be friends with me, share a house, expenses, familiar activities and a "life" than say goodbye to me forever. Of course that's how she feels! It's like she has the best of both worlds although she says neither world is a happy one. I do not want her to have this friendship, I do not want to be just her friend, I am heartbroken, insecure, full of rage and mostly confused. She does not say anything to talk me into staying and I know I would be emotionally better off without her, but.......why can't I just say the words? Money, jobs, family, etc are not affected, and I still have my apartment (it's empty at the moment). We have both called it quits several times in the past 36 months. I REALLY and TRULY did so in April, only to be suckered back with in a month! WHY? How does one know when it is over?
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Old 07-18-2007, 11:47 AM
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hello there and welcome to the forum.

apologies for the late reply, things have been a little rough lately and some technical issues.

to answer your question about "How does one know when it is over?"
i suppose that a possible reply would be "When you've been in and out of a relationship during THREE YEARS and that NOTHING has changed or everything just got WORSE and that you start feeling that you really would be BETTER OFF WITHOUT the person...".

toncin1018, sometimes we try hard to make something work... but sometimes we have to come to the hard but realistic conclusion that maybe, it's just not meant to be.

it takes two hands to clap, and i don't intend to sound mean, but you did cheat first. her retaliation might not have been ideal, but as you saw yourself, you started something that instead of being ended rapidly, was just carried on and on.

maybe it's time to face the hard truth that you really would be better off without a woman who doesn't want to be in a relationship with you.
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Old 10-23-2007, 04:20 PM
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Hey Toncin, welcome to the forums. I'm new here myself but thought I would throw my two cents in ...

It sounds like you two are stuck in a vicious cycle that, unfortunately you started for whatever reason. Why did you cheat in the first place? It's so hard to give advice when you only know a small portion of the story.

If she has so clearly stated that she does not want to continue a marriage with you then how does she seem to "sucker" you back time and time again? This relationship does not sound healthy in the least bit. Are children involved?

I don't want to sound mean but perhaps you need to "grow some balls," realize that you made a mistake by cheating in the first place but cut your losses and really move on. Cut all possible ties until you know you are beyond being suckered back into an unhealthy semi-relationship with her.
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